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Tis a strange time when I completely agree with you. Further to what you have just written, the contemporary left refuse to have an intelligent conversation, even discussion, about their proposals for whatever it is they want, without immediately grasping for the most base personal invective they can find. In the months leading up to the election, the editor of The Spinoff wished to try an experiment in discussing political issues which can sometimes lead to heated arguments within families. She called it 'Arguing with my Mother-in-Law'. My son-in-law Mark Crysell, who is unashamedly a leftie (I would say chardonnay socialist), whom I love dearly, and I would each month pick a topic (for example Capital Gains Tax, and wealth tax) and discuss pros and cons. It lasted two months because the poor moderators at The Spinoff could not cope with the appalling comments - truly ghastly and mostly aimed at yours truly (of course). She had to can it. How immature is this? Mark and I actually never argue, and we ensured we finished every discussion on hope and positivity. But there you go.

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Like Deborah I also find it odd that I agree with you. I consider you a stalwart of the Left and read your Substack ( along with Bryce Edwards) to get a more balanced view of the political world. You both strike me as intelligent people with integrity - qualities coexisting less and less often these days.

Also like Deborah I'm appalled by the abuse directed at political commentary in the comments section. Itrstional abuses used to be a " left wing thing" but I see it more and more coming from sympathisers on the right. Maybe it's where our education system has left us.

The Left has abandoned the " working classes" in favour of its mix of " disadvantaged minorities" ( usually identity based ) and beneficiaries. Labour's core support are the intelligentsia ( academia, judiciary, journalists - actually opinionists - and the civil service ) - the very people true socialists despise ( Mao burnt books , Pol Pot sent these people into the fields - or under them). They rely on guilt and need for much of their support.

No major party seems to care for the youth of NZ. The group truly disadvantaged by an unfair tax system, an education system derailed by ideology leaving them ill equipped for the workforce and a culture of entitlement rather than self responsibility. This generation faces the burden of unaffordable housing, high government debt and a responsibility to fund their parents and grandparents retirement and healthcare - along with funding the benefits for the significant number of their own generation unable or unwilling to work.

The Greens pretend to care for the young ( in the same way they pretend to care for the environment). But in reality they represent the same constituency as Labour - just younger. The Greens - the entitled generation from middle class backgrounds - assume the wealthy can pay for it all - without understanding how wealth is actually created.

Unfortunately the major parties on the Right don't exist. We have no far right parties in NZ, National is so " woke" many if its supporters are looking to vote elsewhere. ACT are a true right wing party but have been captured by their donors so avoid real reform and therefore have limited public appeal.

National lack clear beliefs - they are supposed to stand for growth and prosperity, creating an economy that lifts living standards for all. However their support for the middle class ( the new working class) is largely with more benefits ( working for families). They don't appear to even try to slow down the ideological reforms pushed on us undemocratically from within by the left leaning institutions. They don't challenge the institutions that block their policy progress. They avoid the real reform needed to stop our decline as a nation. Maybe it's because some of the required reform is not want its major donors or centre left MPs want.

So where do we go as a nation - to Winston / NZF , our Reform.? A populist who does lots to protect the benefits for the aged and his donors but otherwise just tells us what we want to hear on immigration and Maorification and does very little substantive about it until election time ( even then its largely promises for action on his next term). NZF wouldn't support the Treaty Principle Bill or push for a referendum on the Maori electoral role at this election ( it will be their next term , like it was in 2017). His own Ministry undermined the government with slipping the UNDRIP clause in the India FTA.

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